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		<title>By: terrio</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Present company excluded, of course. *g*&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great point, Janga.  This is what hung me up all of last year.  All the advice and rules and nay-saying.  I've finally figured out I know enough to get the story down and stop worrying about rules.  After a while, I think they become part of our subconsious anyway.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No one gets it perfect the first time and telling a good story is the point.  If the reader knows what the character is saying, how they are saying it, and why, then all should be just fine.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.  LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Present company excluded, of course. *g*</p>
<p>Great point, Janga.  This is what hung me up all of last year.  All the advice and rules and nay-saying.  I&#8217;ve finally figured out I know enough to get the story down and stop worrying about rules.  After a while, I think they become part of our subconsious anyway.</p>
<p>No one gets it perfect the first time and telling a good story is the point.  If the reader knows what the character is saying, how they are saying it, and why, then all should be just fine.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my theory and I&#8217;m sticking to it.  LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Janga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Did the author of this blog actually say that English professors are pretentious?" Janga said with a supercilious expression. :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Jenny Crusie is one of those who says "said" is invisible. She has stong words for writers who have characters sighing words that can't be sighed and other such ill-conceived combinations. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think we aspirers have to be careful about advice, If one write I admire warns against repeating he and she, and another I respect cautions not to overuse the characters' names, where does that leave  me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Did the author of this blog actually say that English professors are pretentious?&#8221; Janga said with a supercilious expression. <img src='http://romancewritersrevenge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jenny Crusie is one of those who says &#8220;said&#8221; is invisible. She has stong words for writers who have characters sighing words that can&#8217;t be sighed and other such ill-conceived combinations. </p>
<p>I think we aspirers have to be careful about advice, If one write I admire warns against repeating he and she, and another I respect cautions not to overuse the characters&#8217; names, where does that leave  me?</p>
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		<title>By: terrio</title>
		<link>http://romancewritersrevenge.com/2008/03/24/he-said-she-said/#comment-4008</link>
		<dc:creator>terrio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Santa - I actually did that last week for the first time.  Only, I'm not sure it needs any action tags. It's a quickfire convo of heroine's boss talking really fast and not letting her get a word in.  I think just writing it straight through kind of works but figured I'd go back and add tags later if necessary.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I couldn't imagine listening to those scary books.  Especially when I listen to these things on long road trips when I'm all alone.  I'd never be able to get out and pump my own gas at a dark, strange gas station.  LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santa - I actually did that last week for the first time.  Only, I&#8217;m not sure it needs any action tags. It&#8217;s a quickfire convo of heroine&#8217;s boss talking really fast and not letting her get a word in.  I think just writing it straight through kind of works but figured I&#8217;d go back and add tags later if necessary.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t imagine listening to those scary books.  Especially when I listen to these things on long road trips when I&#8217;m all alone.  I&#8217;d never be able to get out and pump my own gas at a dark, strange gas station.  LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Santa</title>
		<link>http://romancewritersrevenge.com/2008/03/24/he-said-she-said/#comment-4007</link>
		<dc:creator>Santa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best audio book I've ever, um, heard was 'A Christmas Carol' read by Patrick Stewart.  Need I say more?  It was fabulous.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The DH and I listen to Sue Griffin (?) books on the road.  I think we are up to the letter N and, yes, we have a way to go.  The narrator of that series does a great job with all the characters.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I also listened to a Dean Koonz novel on audio and it scared the Bejesus out of me.  Ditto for several Crighton books.  I haven't ventured into romances - yet.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This may sound strange but I don't add tags to dialog until I am done with a scene.  I know how they are saying it in my head.  I then say the lines out loud and can hear where the tags, if any, need to go.  I haven't mastered this as well with my action tags.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great blog, Terrio!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best audio book I&#8217;ve ever, um, heard was &#8216;A Christmas Carol&#8217; read by Patrick Stewart.  Need I say more?  It was fabulous.</p>
<p>The DH and I listen to Sue Griffin (?) books on the road.  I think we are up to the letter N and, yes, we have a way to go.  The narrator of that series does a great job with all the characters.</p>
<p>I also listened to a Dean Koonz novel on audio and it scared the Bejesus out of me.  Ditto for several Crighton books.  I haven&#8217;t ventured into romances - yet.</p>
<p>This may sound strange but I don&#8217;t add tags to dialog until I am done with a scene.  I know how they are saying it in my head.  I then say the lines out loud and can hear where the tags, if any, need to go.  I haven&#8217;t mastered this as well with my action tags.</p>
<p>Great blog, Terrio!</p>
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		<title>By: terrio</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tessa - That is another issue, a woman trying to portray a man's voice.  The last one I listened to, All Night Long by Jayne Ann Krentz, had a male narrator for the hero POV parts and a female reader for the heroine POV parts.  It made a huge difference but my understanding is that's rarely done.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And if you are still struggling with this stuff but sold, I feel better that this sort of thing can be worked out in editing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tessa - That is another issue, a woman trying to portray a man&#8217;s voice.  The last one I listened to, All Night Long by Jayne Ann Krentz, had a male narrator for the hero POV parts and a female reader for the heroine POV parts.  It made a huge difference but my understanding is that&#8217;s rarely done.</p>
<p>And if you are still struggling with this stuff but sold, I feel better that this sort of thing can be worked out in editing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa Dare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tessa Dare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to listen to one of Nora Roberts/JD Robb's "In Death" books on audio - the (female) narrator used this really thick Irish accent for Roarke, and combined with her higher-pitched feminine voice, there was a leprechaun vibe that totally ruined it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On the other hand, I love anything read in a smooth Brit-accented baritone.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I blogged several weeks ago about discovering I had way too many action tags in some of my scenes.  I've actually been trying to limit them, as well as the "unusual" dialogue tags.  I also have to fight the urge to overuse italics to get across the word emphasis and inflection I want.  Ideally, the dialogue lines themselves should do the majority of the work, but I still struggle with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to listen to one of Nora Roberts/JD Robb&#8217;s &#8220;In Death&#8221; books on audio - the (female) narrator used this really thick Irish accent for Roarke, and combined with her higher-pitched feminine voice, there was a leprechaun vibe that totally ruined it.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I love anything read in a smooth Brit-accented baritone.  </p>
<p>I blogged several weeks ago about discovering I had way too many action tags in some of my scenes.  I&#8217;ve actually been trying to limit them, as well as the &#8220;unusual&#8221; dialogue tags.  I also have to fight the urge to overuse italics to get across the word emphasis and inflection I want.  Ideally, the dialogue lines themselves should do the majority of the work, but I still struggle with it.</p>
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		<title>By: MsHellion</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsHellion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That I agree with. Goes with the whole showing, not telling thing I need to work on. Constantly. With every chapter of my novels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That I agree with. Goes with the whole showing, not telling thing I need to work on. Constantly. With every chapter of my novels.</p>
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		<title>By: terrio</title>
		<link>http://romancewritersrevenge.com/2008/03/24/he-said-she-said/#comment-4003</link>
		<dc:creator>terrio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the out of context thing is a problem with this kind of discussion because if you're reading a long confrontational scene, you wouldn't need as much info to know the dude is not happy.  But body language is just as important as the words spoken IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the out of context thing is a problem with this kind of discussion because if you&#8217;re reading a long confrontational scene, you wouldn&#8217;t need as much info to know the dude is not happy.  But body language is just as important as the words spoken IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: MsHellion</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsHellion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I've got lots of flying body parts...I was just saying.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Perhaps it's out of context. The bore holes sentence made me want to laugh rather than swoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;ve got lots of flying body parts&#8230;I was just saying.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s out of context. The bore holes sentence made me want to laugh rather than swoon.</p>
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		<title>By: terrio</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa - Having another pair of eyes is crucial but only if those eyes *get* what you're writing.  Important to keep in mind.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, reading what you've written out loud can make a big difference.  Really read it as if it's a script.  If there is anything to hang up the reader, you'll find it then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa - Having another pair of eyes is crucial but only if those eyes *get* what you&#8217;re writing.  Important to keep in mind.</p>
<p>Also, reading what you&#8217;ve written out loud can make a big difference.  Really read it as if it&#8217;s a script.  If there is anything to hang up the reader, you&#8217;ll find it then.</p>
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