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		<title>By: Janga</title>
		<link>http://romancewritersrevenge.com/2008/06/06/killing-me-softly-with-character/#comment-6492</link>
		<dc:creator>Janga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that Atwood's words are from the pov of a participant in a story, but I think the words apply to writing a story as well.</description>
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		<title>By: Janga</title>
		<link>http://romancewritersrevenge.com/2008/06/06/killing-me-softly-with-character/#comment-6491</link>
		<dc:creator>Janga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terri's reference to J.R. Ward's building analogy reminded me of a quote, but I could not remember all of it. It took some time to find it.

“When you are in the middle of a story, it isn't a story at all, but only a confusion, a dark roaring, a wreckage of shattered glass and splintered wood, like a house in a whirlwind, crushed by the icebergs or swept over the rapids, and all aboard powerless to stop it. It's only afterwards that it becomes anything like a story at all, when you are telling it to yourself, or to somebody else.” 

                     Margaret Atwood, Alias Grace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terri&#8217;s reference to J.R. Ward&#8217;s building analogy reminded me of a quote, but I could not remember all of it. It took some time to find it.</p>
<p>“When you are in the middle of a story, it isn&#8217;t a story at all, but only a confusion, a dark roaring, a wreckage of shattered glass and splintered wood, like a house in a whirlwind, crushed by the icebergs or swept over the rapids, and all aboard powerless to stop it. It&#8217;s only afterwards that it becomes anything like a story at all, when you are telling it to yourself, or to somebody else.” </p>
<p>                     Margaret Atwood, Alias Grace</p>
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		<title>By: terrio</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, I remember all those fights about how to correctly load the dishwasher and not putting the lid back on the pan of Hamburger Helper after taking your second helping and letting the stuff dry up in the pan.  Those fights were never really about that stuff at all.

And Janga makes a good point. (I type that a lot.)  If the character didn't change in his/her reaction to things, then he/she isn't changing and there' no arc.  So consistency is good but not the ultimate goal.  Not in everything anyway.

In other words, I'm using "but the character is changing" as my excuse when someone points out my heroine isnt' consistent.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, I remember all those fights about how to correctly load the dishwasher and not putting the lid back on the pan of Hamburger Helper after taking your second helping and letting the stuff dry up in the pan.  Those fights were never really about that stuff at all.</p>
<p>And Janga makes a good point. (I type that a lot.)  If the character didn&#8217;t change in his/her reaction to things, then he/she isn&#8217;t changing and there&#8217; no arc.  So consistency is good but not the ultimate goal.  Not in everything anyway.</p>
<p>In other words, I&#8217;m using &#8220;but the character is changing&#8221; as my excuse when someone points out my heroine isnt&#8217; consistent.  <img src='http://romancewritersrevenge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Hellion</title>
		<link>http://romancewritersrevenge.com/2008/06/06/killing-me-softly-with-character/#comment-6489</link>
		<dc:creator>Hellion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*LOL* Yeah, we never get mad or yell about the thing that's truly making us mad. It's always something else, completely irrational. *LOL* Been there, done that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*LOL* Yeah, we never get mad or yell about the thing that&#8217;s truly making us mad. It&#8217;s always something else, completely irrational. *LOL* Been there, done that.</p>
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		<title>By: Elyssa</title>
		<link>http://romancewritersrevenge.com/2008/06/06/killing-me-softly-with-character/#comment-6488</link>
		<dc:creator>Elyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa, I wrote so many scenes in LAYLOM that I never used--most of it was before I started writing the book.  

I think you just have to write Lacey and see where she takes you.  Most people aren't consistent--especially when it comes to stressful situations and l-o-v-e.

And Hellion, I love how Livie confronts people but that's mostly because she erupts like I do.  So, yes, it does happen.  Though I tend to hold it all in and then when I erupt, I'm like but you never gave me that last bit of chocolate!  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, I wrote so many scenes in LAYLOM that I never used&#8211;most of it was before I started writing the book.  </p>
<p>I think you just have to write Lacey and see where she takes you.  Most people aren&#8217;t consistent&#8211;especially when it comes to stressful situations and l-o-v-e.</p>
<p>And Hellion, I love how Livie confronts people but that&#8217;s mostly because she erupts like I do.  So, yes, it does happen.  Though I tend to hold it all in and then when I erupt, I&#8217;m like but you never gave me that last bit of chocolate!  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T- I love Jr Ward's analogy, that is awesome. Thanks for sharing.

Misty Jo- Thank you I appreciate you stopping by.

Janga-  You are such a wonderful soul. You always have a provoking thought or quote for every instance. Thank you for the insight into humans being humans. We are inconsistant, I'm just trying to avoid Lacey appearing bipolar:)

Hal- You're WIP is wonderful, I read chapter eight and I think you have a wonderful handle on your characters. I'm sure your plot issues will iron out as you progress. Thank you for the encouragement:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T- I love Jr Ward&#8217;s analogy, that is awesome. Thanks for sharing.</p>
<p>Misty Jo- Thank you I appreciate you stopping by.</p>
<p>Janga-  You are such a wonderful soul. You always have a provoking thought or quote for every instance. Thank you for the insight into humans being humans. We are inconsistant, I&#8217;m just trying to avoid Lacey appearing bipolar:)</p>
<p>Hal- You&#8217;re WIP is wonderful, I read chapter eight and I think you have a wonderful handle on your characters. I&#8217;m sure your plot issues will iron out as you progress. Thank you for the encouragement:)</p>
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		<title>By: Hellion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hellion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real people aren't always consistent anyway...actually we're walking contradictions. And never mind the "do as I say not as I do" routines we do. 

Who was the guy who said if you wait long enough people will surprise you (in a good way)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real people aren&#8217;t always consistent anyway&#8230;actually we&#8217;re walking contradictions. And never mind the &#8220;do as I say not as I do&#8221; routines we do. </p>
<p>Who was the guy who said if you wait long enough people will surprise you (in a good way)?</p>
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		<title>By: Janga</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that there's lots of power in that scene, Lisa. I also agree that sometimes we have to write scenes that won't be part of the story in order to have the story go where it needs to go, so either way your work is not wasted.

I am mostly a panster, but I do write fairly detailed character bios early in the process. That strategy evolved out of the character interviews we did on the EJ board(as it was then). Even so, my characters do things that surprise me. I'm not so sure that complete consistency is desirable anyway. I think it was Emerson who said, "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there&#8217;s lots of power in that scene, Lisa. I also agree that sometimes we have to write scenes that won&#8217;t be part of the story in order to have the story go where it needs to go, so either way your work is not wasted.</p>
<p>I am mostly a panster, but I do write fairly detailed character bios early in the process. That strategy evolved out of the character interviews we did on the EJ board(as it was then). Even so, my characters do things that surprise me. I&#8217;m not so sure that complete consistency is desirable anyway. I think it was Emerson who said, &#8220;Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.&#8221; <img src='http://romancewritersrevenge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: terrio</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hal - so you're building a mansion.  Nothing wrong with that.  LOL!  And you are definitely not alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal - so you&#8217;re building a mansion.  Nothing wrong with that.  LOL!  And you are definitely not alone.</p>
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		<title>By: haleigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>haleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice scene Lisa!  You always do imagery so well!  

Terri - great analogy!  I'm a plotter (I love outlines!) but even with that, I often still feel like I'm writing blind.  Glad to know I'm not the only one :)

I'm 50k words into my WIP, and I feel like I'm just now getting to know these characters as well as I should.  So there's no consistency, because I just didn't know them well enough in the beginning to be consistent. I did character sketches at the beginning, but now that I know so much more about them both, I could probably do completely new character sketches.

And my plot is so convoluted that I'm afraid when I'm done and step back, I'm going to find seven walls and two roofs :)  That's what edits are for, right? 

And ps - I am loving Lacey, Lisa!  Can't wait to read more about her</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice scene Lisa!  You always do imagery so well!  </p>
<p>Terri - great analogy!  I&#8217;m a plotter (I love outlines!) but even with that, I often still feel like I&#8217;m writing blind.  Glad to know I&#8217;m not the only one <img src='http://romancewritersrevenge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m 50k words into my WIP, and I feel like I&#8217;m just now getting to know these characters as well as I should.  So there&#8217;s no consistency, because I just didn&#8217;t know them well enough in the beginning to be consistent. I did character sketches at the beginning, but now that I know so much more about them both, I could probably do completely new character sketches.</p>
<p>And my plot is so convoluted that I&#8217;m afraid when I&#8217;m done and step back, I&#8217;m going to find seven walls and two roofs <img src='http://romancewritersrevenge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  That&#8217;s what edits are for, right? </p>
<p>And ps - I am loving Lacey, Lisa!  Can&#8217;t wait to read more about her</p>
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