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		<title>By: Hellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 05:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I don&#039;t think anyone is able to love unconditionally, not even mothers--and they&#039;d be the most likely candidates. Unconditionally loving someone you didn&#039;t give birth to?--pretty much impossible. We&#039;re too complicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I don&#8217;t think anyone is able to love unconditionally, not even mothers&#8211;and they&#8217;d be the most likely candidates. Unconditionally loving someone you didn&#8217;t give birth to?&#8211;pretty much impossible. We&#8217;re too complicated.</p>
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		<title>By: 2nd Chance</title>
		<link>http://romancewritersrevenge.com/2009/08/05/tangled-triangles/comment-page-1/#comment-23249</link>
		<dc:creator>2nd Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! Poor Bumblebee! I remember when me beagle got hold of a binaca breath spray once...poked through it and got a mouthful of breah spray. I laughed my ass off! He looked so offended!

Anyway, yeah, it almost comes down to a negotiation between partners on what defines what. And keeping lines of communication open because things really do change. 

When uncertain, talk about it.

And yup, Hel...LKH writes a lot of polyamory situations. With strong males that don&#039;t necessarily compete with each other but work together...to please Anita.

I&#039;m not sure unconditional love is possible. But an awareness of how conditions change is the key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! Poor Bumblebee! I remember when me beagle got hold of a binaca breath spray once&#8230;poked through it and got a mouthful of breah spray. I laughed my ass off! He looked so offended!</p>
<p>Anyway, yeah, it almost comes down to a negotiation between partners on what defines what. And keeping lines of communication open because things really do change. </p>
<p>When uncertain, talk about it.</p>
<p>And yup, Hel&#8230;LKH writes a lot of polyamory situations. With strong males that don&#8217;t necessarily compete with each other but work together&#8230;to please Anita.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure unconditional love is possible. But an awareness of how conditions change is the key.</p>
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		<title>By: terrio</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to apologize, the phone sex answer was a knee jerk reaction. I have those when this topic comes up.  

IMO - feeling lust or physical attraction to a person other than your SO is human nature. Acting on it is when the problems start. Taking care of yourself be it with or without the aid of pornography is not cheating. Again, just my opinion.  That&#039;s only a problem if it becomes something uncontrolled or damaging to real life relationships. Lots of gray area there.

I&#039;m sorry, my cat just got a shot of one of those auto air fresheners up his nose. LOL! Where was I?

Oh, for me, being open with each other is the ost important thing. If one does something they know full out the other would feel hurt by, then they shouldn&#039;t do it.  Which is why every relationship is unique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to apologize, the phone sex answer was a knee jerk reaction. I have those when this topic comes up.  </p>
<p>IMO &#8211; feeling lust or physical attraction to a person other than your SO is human nature. Acting on it is when the problems start. Taking care of yourself be it with or without the aid of pornography is not cheating. Again, just my opinion.  That&#8217;s only a problem if it becomes something uncontrolled or damaging to real life relationships. Lots of gray area there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, my cat just got a shot of one of those auto air fresheners up his nose. LOL! Where was I?</p>
<p>Oh, for me, being open with each other is the ost important thing. If one does something they know full out the other would feel hurt by, then they shouldn&#8217;t do it.  Which is why every relationship is unique.</p>
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		<title>By: Hellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have realized today I do enjoy the polyamory (by the way, Irish showed this word to her husband and when she met me for breakfast last Friday, he asked her how the polyamory interviews were going *LOL* Sorry tangent.) in the LKH Anita Blake books. She&#039;s got more triangles going on than any geometry book could possibly hold. There&#039;s a little threesome with her and Nathaniel and Jason in the opening of Blood Noir--and it was kinda hot--but it was definitely of the &quot;all about Anita&quot; sort of sex. And it had a little bondage thrown in, so maybe that&#039;s why I enjoyed it more. *LOL* 

I don&#039;t know how their relationship works though. It&#039;s weird how the relationship works--and yet it doesn&#039;t. And mostly I think it works because Anita is the alpha of all the men in her life. She&#039;s a protector of most, if not all, of them. The guys are very alpha-ish, but not on Anita&#039;s level. 

I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d call Phone Sex cheating, but I think I get where Terri was going with it. There is an &quot;emotional cheating&quot; where everything gets confused. And again, I think 2nd points out a key problem: what if you&#039;re fantasizing about someone else during sex, are you cheating on them even if you&#039;re having sex with them?? Flirting can be emotional cheating, but for some of us, flirting is like breathing but the intent and meaning is shallow. 

I don&#039;t know. People are complicated. And expecting them to be so pure and devoted seems a lot to ask. Actually it&#039;s not the expecting part that bothers me. We all want that person--but to put such restrictions on a person or indicate if they don&#039;t follow it, our love is conditional--that seems like it would have a negative effect. Anytime you make love conditional, you are bound to get hurt or be disappointed. 

Of course, loving unconditionally gets you the reputation for being a doormat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have realized today I do enjoy the polyamory (by the way, Irish showed this word to her husband and when she met me for breakfast last Friday, he asked her how the polyamory interviews were going *LOL* Sorry tangent.) in the LKH Anita Blake books. She&#8217;s got more triangles going on than any geometry book could possibly hold. There&#8217;s a little threesome with her and Nathaniel and Jason in the opening of Blood Noir&#8211;and it was kinda hot&#8211;but it was definitely of the &#8220;all about Anita&#8221; sort of sex. And it had a little bondage thrown in, so maybe that&#8217;s why I enjoyed it more. *LOL* </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how their relationship works though. It&#8217;s weird how the relationship works&#8211;and yet it doesn&#8217;t. And mostly I think it works because Anita is the alpha of all the men in her life. She&#8217;s a protector of most, if not all, of them. The guys are very alpha-ish, but not on Anita&#8217;s level. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d call Phone Sex cheating, but I think I get where Terri was going with it. There is an &#8220;emotional cheating&#8221; where everything gets confused. And again, I think 2nd points out a key problem: what if you&#8217;re fantasizing about someone else during sex, are you cheating on them even if you&#8217;re having sex with them?? Flirting can be emotional cheating, but for some of us, flirting is like breathing but the intent and meaning is shallow. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know. People are complicated. And expecting them to be so pure and devoted seems a lot to ask. Actually it&#8217;s not the expecting part that bothers me. We all want that person&#8211;but to put such restrictions on a person or indicate if they don&#8217;t follow it, our love is conditional&#8211;that seems like it would have a negative effect. Anytime you make love conditional, you are bound to get hurt or be disappointed. </p>
<p>Of course, loving unconditionally gets you the reputation for being a doormat.</p>
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		<title>By: Sin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was one weird blog day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was one weird blog day.</p>
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		<title>By: 2nd Chance</title>
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		<dc:creator>2nd Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or your significant other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or your significant other.</p>
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		<title>By: 2nd Chance</title>
		<link>http://romancewritersrevenge.com/2009/08/05/tangled-triangles/comment-page-1/#comment-23244</link>
		<dc:creator>2nd Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, and don&#039;t let a definition that someone else uses define what it means to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, and don&#8217;t let a definition that someone else uses define what it means to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s important to talk about cheating and boundaries in relationships. That way it&#039;s all out in the open and no one has any misunderstandings about what the expectations are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s important to talk about cheating and boundaries in relationships. That way it&#8217;s all out in the open and no one has any misunderstandings about what the expectations are.</p>
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		<title>By: Sin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. Well, maybe. Sometimes Morelli and Steph are in a &quot;relationship&quot; but Morelli is always aware of the activities in the dark alley with Ranger. Or that Steph sleeps in Ranger&#039;s bed. Or lets him feel her up. But I&#039;m starting to agree with you the more we talk about it. It&#039;s a little polyamory. 

And the complexity of triangles is a little more intensive than I originally thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. Well, maybe. Sometimes Morelli and Steph are in a &#8220;relationship&#8221; but Morelli is always aware of the activities in the dark alley with Ranger. Or that Steph sleeps in Ranger&#8217;s bed. Or lets him feel her up. But I&#8217;m starting to agree with you the more we talk about it. It&#8217;s a little polyamory. </p>
<p>And the complexity of triangles is a little more intensive than I originally thought.</p>
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		<title>By: 2nd Chance</title>
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		<dc:creator>2nd Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Sin. Is Stephanie technically cheating on Morelli? Or Ranger?

One thing I found fascinating about their triangle was that both guys were aware, without getting all vocal, that they both &#039;knew&#039; Stephanie in the biblical sense.

And Morelli still sent her to Ranger for security. And Ranger still sent her home when all was safe... What sort of triangle is that? Really, really, really close to a polyamory situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Sin. Is Stephanie technically cheating on Morelli? Or Ranger?</p>
<p>One thing I found fascinating about their triangle was that both guys were aware, without getting all vocal, that they both &#8216;knew&#8217; Stephanie in the biblical sense.</p>
<p>And Morelli still sent her to Ranger for security. And Ranger still sent her home when all was safe&#8230; What sort of triangle is that? Really, really, really close to a polyamory situation.</p>
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